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The last post? (Sept 2018)

This blog has achieved its aims so we have decided to significantly reduce the number of new posts. However we will update existing posts with extra information if it becomes available. 

We have shown that George (i.e. Lee G R Evans twitter @LeeEvansBirding i.e. https://twitter.com/LeeEvansBirdingis a compulsive fabricator, liar and cheat on an extraordinary scale so birders do need to question anything he claims. He has stopped updating his fictitious UK400 and top 10 listers totals. The real top 10 is shown hereThe following gives the reader some idea what George is like but its not exhaustive!!

George has given death threats which is a criminal offence to a number of people. Some of these conversations have been recorded and handed over to the police. On at least one occasion he was given a police caution.

He has many times rang a birder’s boss to get the rival into trouble, e.g. saying they are talking sickies when they are year-listing, e.g. developing anti-LGRE websites in company time, e.g. suppressing bird news from bird news providers. This has resulted in at least 1 birder having a nervous breakdown and another losing his job and others giving up their year-listing.

He has been found out a vast number of times claiming birds that he did not see. E.g, Danes Dyke Blackpoll Warbler, Scratby Hall Hume’s Warbler, Murcar Beach American White-winged Scoter. Sometimes he invents an extensive cover story to make it sound more convincing e.g. Lundy Ruppell’s Warbler. See this post for details & associated Hilter video.

He has gone through many county bird reports claiming birds he did not see. George has outrageously claimed I am in the Top 10 of virtually every individual county list in Britain.” Britain i.e. England, Scotland and Wales has just over 90 counties. Scotland counties were replaced by 32 Council Areas which are roughly equivalent to counties.

Most years George claims to be the UK number 1 year list record holder when in practice the record often/normally belongs to someone else. The self-appointed ‘judge, jury & executioner’ & ‘policeman’ of birding sets himself as an adjudicator of rival year-listers lists (e.g. Adrian Webb) and knocks valid birds off their lists but adds lots of string and duff birds onto his list. Have a look at this from someone who travelled extensively with George it includes “If people start from the premise that LGRE is ‘normal’ and recognises ordinary concepts such as morality, integrity, honesty and the interests of others, they are making a serious mistake.”  George has not updated his 2018 year list on Bubo since May. This ploy is often used so that no one can keep track of what birds he has really seen. Then at the end of December he claims many birds that he did not see, of course without supporting dates.

George has claimed to be the number 1 Western Palearctic life and year lister, both of which have never been true. Have a look at this.

He makes false health claims to get the sympathy vote. For example, e.g. “I have been suffering again from malaria problems and have been too ill to answer the Emails. I am also suffering badly from a brain tumour which is seriously affecting my sight and speech and causing me ongoing migraine (I am too frightened to have it removed as the sight in my only remaining eye may well be affected by the operation).” His pancreatic cancer, which is normally terminal, “I might not last beyond XMAS (2013)”. “I wonder seriously if the overuse of mobile phones speeds up the demise of your brain cells or whether I just have the early signs of dementure.”

Some think George is a psychopath or demonstrates in pure form every single symptom of the narcissistic personality disorder. We believe he is very Trump like.

Many believe that George is a racist although he claims he is not. However he puts out racist like tweets (e.g. at least 10 species of humans , welcome to Lutonstan which is a First Britain video). George has stated on twitter that he is very far right wing and he claims that he launched the British fascist political organisation ‘Britain First’!! However wikipedia does not mention that. 

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“Been involved in at least 11 major car crashes which have resulted in several fatalities.”… “11 people died” …. “it’s just part of the birding game, when you’ve been in as many accidents as I have, you don’t worry about it”. There have been no fatalities.

He has pretended to be bankrupt to get out of paying many hundreds of pounds to birders. “declared my bankruptcy petition with losses of £109,172.00.” We have checked with the authorities, he has not been made bankrupt or has an IVA. Here is one version of his fictitious claims on his stolen car and contents: “I lost £26,000 through that theft…… “I put my magazines in a sack and was carrying it to the Post Office counter when 2 yobboes jumped in the car and sped off the boot still up. … it had absolutely everything of mine in it, including a laptop computer with new big book on it – nine years’ work! There were telescopes – an unopened Nikon and an Optolyth made specially for me – 2 pairs of Leica binoculars, cameras…but the biggest problem was that I lost the whole stock of a new book (Rare Birds of Norfolk) – £60,000 (sic) worth which I had to pay for in 90 days. It was all burnt.” “They drove my car into a sign called The Lee, which has got a picture of a little Firecrest on a wooden plinth next to it, and they stoked underneath the vehicle with my books and set fire to it. The police identified the car from the engine number and from the remains of my books flying around in the wind”. He also claimed “Unfortunately, because the keys were inside the vehicle when it was stolen, the insurance company refused to pay out and in total I lost in the region of £36,000.”

George is a one man band who makes decisions on what goes on the list based on what advantage it will give him over his close rivals (e.g. Scillies Amur Wagtail, Bicknell’s Thrush, etc). There have been occasions where George has claimed that he had spoken to one of his “UK400 listed advisors” but the “advisor” knew nothing about it. Some were not aware they were a UK400 advisor! Also “the ultimate decision is mine” and that he has “gone against” the advisor’s decision. “Being a one-man band, it is clear that I am going to upset people with my decisions”. Yes a one man band with no committee. Regarding George’s taxonomic decisions Alex Lees had a go with George here.

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Old information not on this site can be found on the ex-website “The Truth on LGRE”. To get to this information one must go via an archive site. Copy the following address  http://www.webbsteve.freeserve.co.uk and paste it into the archive search box on http://archive.org/web, press BROWSE HISTORY, & select the 2008 and 2003 versions. This freeserve site cannot be accessed directly!!

Here are 4 Hitler videos on George which are based on facts and fiction: The biggest list of all timeI got the biggest of all time, At all costs I will stay in the top 10, I need the Lundy Ruppell’s Warbler. 

Here are 2 general videos on George: TWITCHERS for BBC, Twitchers A Very British Obsession. However this last video is rather long and some of the best quotes can be found on Of Pies and Birds post.

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The real Top 10 UK Listers / Twitchers

The real “top 10 UK Listers Birders” is radically different to George’s claims.

When George updates the UK400 Club listers totals he uses guesswork resulting in quite a number of birders list totals being way out. Most have never submitted their list to George. He stated “To see more of this List” (i.e. below the top 10)  “- down to 1,000th position in fact, you have to join the prestigious British Birding Association/UK400 Club – £25 annual subscription”!! Note the UK400 club includes Irish records as well.

The UK400 Top 10 listers/twitchers totals are also mainly based on guesswork resulting in the ordering of the listers being wildly wrong. The UK400 top 10 as of 9/9/16 in numeric order according to George were: no. 1. Steve Gantlett, 2. Mel Billington, 3. Chris Heard, 4. David Oddy (i.e. Steve Webb), 5. Lee Evans, 6. John Regan, 7. Ron Johns, 8. Neil Alford, 9. Gerry Warne, 10. Chris Bell.

We contacted a number of high listers asking what species they had seen on their combined BOU/IRBC list. In Oct 2017 we looked at Steve Webb’s (565), Brett Richards’ (556) and Paul Chapman’s combined detailed lists which are on www.bubo.org. We also took into consideration list cheating – George is not the only one in the top 10 that cheats!!

The Top 10 BOU/IRBC listers is very different to George’s UK400 Top 10. In surname order they are: Mel Billington, Paul Chapman, Lee Evans, Steve Gantlett, Chris Heard, John Hewitt, John Regan, Brett Richards, Gerry Warne, Steve Webb.

Also the numeric order is very different e.g. Billington is no. 9 (not no. 2), George no. 10 (not no. 5). Steve Webb no. 1 (not no. 4). Steve stated on bubo “No. 1 on BOU/IRBC list by mid 2008. As of 23/10/18 not aware of a higher total of accepted birds.”

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Although George ‘claimed’ he was in the UK400 top 10 in the 1980’s and 1990’s he was NOT in the combined BOU/IRBC top 10. George has never published a full UK400 detailed species list so its impossible to know exactly what he is claiming. However we know he counts birds that are not accepted by BOU/BBRC e.g. Scillies Amur Wagtail, Bickell’s Thrush.

We encourage everyone to put their combined list on https://www.bubo.org so its clear to all what birders are counting at the species level and also what their totals are.

The following was from http://bbabirding.blogspot.co.uk:

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The BOURC has historically maintained a British and Irish list. Wikipedia states “For many years, records of IRBC-assessed rarities were included in the BOURC’s reports, but this ceased in 2002, at the request of IRBC”. All top listers started listing well before this date and many go back to the 1970s or earlier when it was popular to keep a combined list. Even today many/most of the top listers do not keep a BOU only list.

BOU & UK400 life list claims

This site was going to permanently stop putting on new posts but then George starts telling big porkies again.

On 1/10/17 on Facebook George stated “My UK Life List is 582 (UK400 Club) 564 (BOU)”. Both of these claims as you would expect are fiction. We think George’s BOU list is a maximum of 549 and probably 548 BOU birds.

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The UK400 club contrary to its UK title actually includes Irish records as well – some Irish birders are not too happy about this! So although George stated a BOU total we think he is really referring to his combined Britain and Ireland list (BOU/IRBC) which is a maximum of 554 and is probably 553.

George’s claim total of 564 is just 1 behind Steve Webb’s combined list of 565 as of Oct. 2017. Steve’s list (i.e. here) is on bubo so its not just a total but a breakdown to the species level. George has never published a full combined list to the species level. By looking at Steve’s list and knowing what birds they have seen over each other it is possible to get a very good idea of George’s real total.

On the combined list there are 12 birds that Steve has seen that George has not. George has only seen 1 accepted bird over Steve. The 12 birds are Caspian Plover, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker, Eastern Kingbird, Purple Martin, Grey Catbird, White-crowned Black Wheatear, Green Warbler, Thick-billed Warbler, Magnolia Warbler, Chestnut Bunting, Brown-headed Cowbird, Lammergeier. Also George has probably not seen Indigo Bunting – see below for details.

George has accepted the Lammergeier as a real bird. He stated on Facebook on 15/10/16 “This includes no fewer than EIGHT new additions to the list: Dalmatian Pelican, Brown Booby, Red-footed Booby, Purple Gallinule, Lammergeier, Vega Gull, Siberian Accentor and Seaside Sparrow!”.

George has 1 accepted record on Steve which is Moltoni’s Warbler. Although George has claimed Barolo Shearwater and Yelkouan Shearwater on the same seawatch off Pendeen in 2009 neither bird has been submitted to BBRC. The claimed Barolo was only seen by a few people of the large gathering and the Yelkouan was seen by even less. There has only been accepted 1 record of Yelkouan and that was photographed!

There are also a few records that we have also given George the benefit of seeing when it quite feasible for him to have pretended to see them. For example, George claims he saw the Indigo Bunting on Ramsey Island the only accepted BOU record. This bird was there from the 18th to 26th October. George and many others at the time were on the Scillies. Some of these came off on Saturday the 19th and saw the bird on the 20th which involved a charter boat to Ramsey and was a difficult journey. George was not there on the 20th. We think that George came off Scillies on Saturday the 26th and missed the bird. Please send us a comment if you know otherwise.

If George thinks that any of the above is incorrect we suggest that he publishes his full combined list on bubo.

It is not possible to determine George’s real UK400 total because he has never published a full UK400 list. He published on 31/12/16 on bubo a UK400 life list that showed only 338 birds. However we are aware that George has quite a lot of string on his UK400 life list. We also know that he counts birds that are not accepted by BOU/BBRC e.g. Scillies Amur Wagtail, Bickell’s Thrush.

It’s about time George published his full UK400 list on bubo so we can do a post on that as well.

George has a habit of creating fictional bird totals for himself and others. For example, “The Top 10 Listing Birders in the UK” is a fictional list of UK400 totals. It is also not helped by the fact that a number of these birders have also cheated on their totals. George is not only one in the “top 10” that claims birds they have not seen.

This top 10 list shows a David Oddy at no. 4. It states “David Oddy, once of Surrey but now in a caravan in Yorkshire, arguably one of the least deserving of such a high accolade, on 592 species”. This person is actually Steve Webb. Steve registered a complaint to the Data Protection Information Commissioner’s Office because George was using Steve’s list data without Steve’s permission and also giving the wrong total for him. This resulted in George not putting the name Steve Webb in the totals list but instead calling him The Invisible Man. Then later George changed this to David Oddy.

Its not too surprising that George does not like Steve Webb because Steve use to run an anti-LGRE website called “The Truth on LGRE” which exposed George as a fraud and compulsive lair.

On the combined BOU/IRBC, Steve is on 565 and George 554 and probably 553 which is a difference of 11 to 12. However David Oddy is shown on the UK400 top 10 totals list with 592 and George with 588 which is ONLY a difference of 4!!

It has been noted by some birders that if George likes you he marks your total up and if he dislikes you he marks your total down.

In January 2018 the BOU will adopt the IOC list and as its possible that Steve’s combined list will be no. 1.

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Welcome to Lutonstan (25/9/18)

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George (LRGE) posted the above which included a link to the video on his Facebook account stating “I knew this subject would be controversial but as I have strong concerns about the situation……Nobody will spend more time in the company of these trusted friends as I do but to say multiculturism is working in this country is a misnomer. I’m not going to get involved in a heated discussion about this because all that will be said is that I am a racist but trust me, working at first-hand, this will not end happily.”

George has said that he is very far right wing and has make some outlandish claims:

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Not surprisingly there were a wide range of comments including “Posting a Britain First reference to ‘Lutonstan’ and claiming not to be racist is the sign of a very confused man. You’re not racist but will share, promote and explicitly defend the platform and policies of an avowedly racist group, who have an entire paramilitary wing dedicated to intimidation and violence and whose members include M.P Jo Cox’s murderer? Hmmm”

Although George claims not to be racist putting out tweets that there are “at least 10 species of humans” and sending thousands of British people to Syria for the “Kurds to sort out” because they had ISIS views in this post are not helpful at all.

 

The real 2017 BOU no. 1 lister (updated 18/1/18)

This post mainly deals with George’s and Graham Jepson’s 2017 BOU list.

On bubo i.e. here, it shows George at no. 1 with 349 but that includes the plastics and strung birds mentioned below. There are also other birds not mentioned below that we suspect George did not see as well. His nearest rival Graham Jepson had 340 but his list is plastic free. So the real no. 1 is in fact Graham Jepson!! Well done Graham.

Does the above sound familiar? On many occasions George has claimed to be the no. 1 UK lister when the record belonged to someone else e.g. Richard Bonser, Anthony Brydges, Mark Marshall, Bob Walthew, Matt Mulvey, Sean Brown, Ian Robinson, Andy Stockhausen. There many others as well but we can’t be bothered to name them all.

Compared to his 2016 list it was much more difficult to prove what scarce birds he had seen because he did NOT provide any details (i.e. NO dates, locations, witnesses or comments). However Graham Jepson did supply dates for his scare birds. 

The following is in chronological order:
George’s has Cackling Geese for the 24/2/2017. George stated on twitter “Family party of Dutch Cackling Geese still present in the Cuckmere this afternoon with the Barnacle Geese that also came from Holland.” Someone replied: “Only 4 ‘pure’ Cackling surely?” George’s replied “Yes, but who were the parents of the 5 young?!!” Netherlands has a feral population but there is no certain evidence that these 9 birds came from there.

George claimed on bubo that he had seen Golden Eagle by the end of March. We are at a loss of when and where George saw this because we had a tip off that none of the other participants on the Round Britain tours saw Golden Eagle.

George claimed on bubo that he had seen White Stork in April. Yet another plastic for his totals!! On 6/4/17 on Facebook it shows that he saw the Sackers Green, White Stork. As of mid June we are not aware of a real White Stork for 2017. E.g. Rare Bird Alert in their weekly birding roundup articles said all the White Storks in East Anglia and nearby for April were plastic. George also stated on Facebook Yet another UK rarity of unknown origin. In fact, you may as well give up as far as WHITE STORKS are concerned. In addition to at least three free-flying colonies in the UK, there is the problem of rehabilitated injured birds, a large number of reintroduction birds on the Close Continent and any number of foreign escapes from Zoos & collections. This particular bird currently in Suffolk (… Sackers Green …) is unringed but has extensive damage to its flight feathers, either picked up in captivity or taken on during migration where White Storks are shot upon”. 

George’s bubo list shows for the 19/05/2017 a Bufflehead at Potter Heigham Marshes with the comment “A female of presumably captive origin – apparently has a plastic ring (per Barry Jarvis)”. Rare Bird Alert stated it was an escape.

Each year George includes plastics on his claimed total to boost his yearly tally. But George does not like others counting possible escapes even when they are not escapes!!

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By end of May he also claimed Ptarmigan which also seems very doubtful.

Also a Red-breasted Goose is on George’s list for 11th June at Newbury with the comment “An unringed adult of unknown but very likely captive origin”. BBRC have never accepted a summer record.

Yet another plastic this time a Great Bustard on 22nd Sept, “a female banded in 2016”.

We strongly suspect that George did not see other birds as well which are not mentioned in this post at the moment. It can be quite difficult to prove a negative.

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List accuracy

The following is from a UK400 Editorial (see post below) where the policeman of birding stated “Like it or not, birding attracts a disproportionate number of fabricators and it is my job to make sure that the national bird record archives is not distorted by these claims. I am passionate about bird records and wish to give an accurate representation of what has been seen….I am a perfectionist and strive to make accurate and fully comprehensive reports …. it is beneficial to us all that only definite claims are accepted.” Elsewhere he has stated “I keep meticulous notes on all of the birds that I see and record even every Song Thrush and Lesser Black-backed Gull.”

We all know who is the biggest fabricator!! Only in recent years has George been putting his lists on bubo. His key bubo life lists are totally inadequate e.g. the UK400 life list only gives 338 out his claimed around 590 birds, missing out the key birds. His AERC WP life list only has 618 birds and states “A work in progress; 200 or so vagrants to add to list”, again missing out the key birds. This is not helpful for someone who has claimed to be the number one WP life lister and states on his website he has seen 880 birds. 

His UK400 year lists are not exactly accurate either. Lets start with his UK400 2013 year list and then move on to later ones. Remember that the following examples are boosting his year list totals as each record adds yet one more to his year tally. George would not be happy if a rival counted some of these. George has even accused rivals of counting escapes when they have turned out to be real birds and accepted by the BBRC (e.g. Adrian Webb’s Black Kite).

George loves counting plastics on his list.

On 23/6/2009, George rejected the Dorset Hooded Merganser with the details here – “After much deliberation, the drake HOODED MERGANSER …has now been formally accepted on to Category D1 … The bird therefore becomes UNCOUNTABLE on any UK400 Club day, life, county or year lists.” But that did not stop George counting it on his 2013 year list for 13/3/2013. 

Ross’s Snow Goose on 3/12/2013, Marshside Marsh RSPB, Lancs, George stated “A first-winter of unknown origin with Mallards”. This stayed around Marshside and nearby sites for nearly 4 years and then it was believed to have died.

Black-winged Stilt on 15/3/2014, Castle Mills. On 2014 year list George stated “bearing an orange ring indicating captive origin”. There were quite a number of escapes that year.

Ross’s Snow Goose on 8/4/2014, Wilstone Reservoir (Tring). George stated “first-winter of presumably captive origin with Greylag Geese”. This was regarded by many as an escape.

Bufflehead on 29/10/2015 at Priory Country Park, Bedford. On his 2015 list George stated this “first-winter drake bearing a metal ring on its right leg”. Of course UK400 (i.e. George) can count what he likes but we prefer BBRC views and they rejected it.

A resident pair of Ruddy Shelduck on 20/2/2015 and 26/7/2016 at Pitsford Reservoir. These were counted on his 2015 list and 2016 list and George even stated in 2016 “Perhaps now of highly dubious origin as seemingly resident now”.

Looking at George’s 2016 UK400 list on bubo we found 9 errors and/or probable fabrications. Some of these are discussed below.

Since 2016, George has been sending twitter messages from Little Charfont which are time stamped. This has shown that he did not see the American White-winged Scoter on 2/7/2016 at Murcar Beach, Aberdeenshire and the Scratby Hall Hume’s Warbler on 9/12/2016. We believe he didn’t see these 2 birds on any date.

George strung his only record of Rustic Bunting for 2016. He was at Kilnsea on the 6/10/2016 but there are witnesses who say he did not see it. George needs to supply witnesses for this record on his year list. 

Also George is claiming Greenish Warbler at Bempton on 6/10/16. There was no Greenish there – it was an Arctic Warbler. Some Arctic’s are very Greenish-like. As George had seen Arctic at Landguard that’s yet another one off his 2016 list! 

George posted on Facebook on 23/2/2017 with the title “Did I throw away a Pale-legged Leaf Warbler last year?” with some good photo’s which included the crown of the Arctic at Bempton on 6/10/16. George received quite a number of comments back. As it looked nothing like a Pale-legged, unsurprisingly no one thought it was one, e.g. “Definitely not a Pale-legged, or Sakhalin Leaf Warbler, would expect a greyish crown among other things.”, e.g. “Well, it is a leaf warbler and it does have pale legs. But i wouldn’t worry too much about this one.”

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Stow Blue Rock Thrush on 29/12/2016 is on his UK400 2016 list even though he claimed it was an escape. For example, George stated on twitter on 3/1/17 “Adult male Blue Rock Thrush of presumably captive origin still present”.

Gareth Hughes had 352 for 2016, and George claimed 355. We know that George got less than 352, which is typical of George of adding a few more on to beat his rivals. So well done to Gareth in being the number 1 2016 BOU lister.

His 2017 listing claims are now in a new post. Below there are 2 comments on Blue Rock Thrush.

Mark Pass & new Hitler video

The Master list keeper has been keeping a beady eye on Mark Pass’s 2016 year list.

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Here is a new excellent Hitler video on Mark’s list and of course George. It is a mixture of fact and fiction – a bit like George’s lists. Its at http://www.captiongenerator.com/400972/I-got-the-biggest-of-all-time – this website makes it easy to post it onto Facebook.

The rest of this post is background to the Hitler video.

Although George pretends to be a top twitcher, on important megas especially on islands, he does not always go or takes a slow travel option, unlike his rivals. So he has missed many key island birds. Quite a number he has caught up with at a later date but some he still needs (e.g. Eastern Kingbird, Thick-billed Warbler, Brown-headed Cowbird, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker, Magnolia Warbler, Caspian Plover, Purple Martin). In an attempt not to get left behind the big listers, he pads his list out with birds that are not what he claims them to be (e.g. Scilly Isles Amur Wagtail, Bicknell’s Thrush, etc). When he does year lists, other than his guided tours, he does not twitch Scotland that much. 

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Adrian Webb’s all time record of 383 was obtained in 2000 but George knocked it down to 378 with no real justification. George’s 1996 year-list was originally 375. Then in Nov. 2002, he claimed that he had beaten Adrian’s record with 384 birds. His 1996 list had grown by 8 new splits and WH Duck. This claim of 384 birds was not believed. Also he didn’t add any splits or WH Duck to Adrian’s list some of which Adrian did see!! Then a few years later George increased it to 386. 

In 1996 George claimed he had seen 41 YBW, 24 Wryneck, 68 Wood Sand along with other unlikely high bird counts. He claimed for 2016 American WW Scoter and Humes YBW. We believe he didn’t see either of these 2 birds.